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Pacific Rim

Post by Rorschach » Tue May 21, 2013 2:44 pm

I'm pretty surprised that this hasn't been mentioned already given the large percentage of nerds we have posting and the obvious source material for this movie

http://www.imdb.com/list/2of6ofdWndc/?r ... p_vi2#lb-1

But is anyone else as super-excited about it as I am? It's got giant robots. It's got giant monsters. It's got giant robots fighting giant monsters.

What else could you possibly ask for in a non-porno movie?
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Re: Pacific Rim

Post by Deacon » Tue May 21, 2013 3:08 pm

I have missed out on so many movies since before this past Oscar season...

None of my friends are moviegoers.
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Re: Pacific Rim

Post by Sir Spankspeople » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:45 am

Just wanted to mention, Pacific Rim was goddamn amazing.

Pretty much exactly what I wanted in a Giant Robots fighting Huge Monsters movie. Would definitely watch again.
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Re: Pacific Rim

Post by Rorschach » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:56 am

I need to try again. Sober. I thought it was nonsense, yet everyone I've mentioned this to is surprised and outraged.
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Re: Pacific Rim

Post by Dreamer » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:49 pm

I need to get my fast talking high-pants to this talkie while it's still on the silver screen!
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Re: Pacific Rim

Post by Deacon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:37 pm

I discussed it on Facebook. I ended up seeing the movie twice on opening day. It was absolutely not planned to be that way, but I'm glad it worked out like it did. The first time I saw it I was gravely disappointed. I expected a movie along the lines of the good superhero movies we've seen recently, basically what amounts to large-scale sci-fi fantasies that manage to invoke your suspension of disbelief whether you like it or not, with a serious and detailed treatment of the material. That's not what Pacific Rim was, but I didn't realize that till the opening few minutes of the second viewing.

This is, in a nutshell, a beautiful and terribly expensive live-action anime; to even call it an homage may be to sell it short. Once I realized that, all the crap I hated about the movie suddenly snapped into place and became not only acceptable but even precisely what was called for. It's extremely easy to imagine each of those characters in animated form, exactly as the teams from Fullmetal Alchemist or even Naruto would've rendered them. All the silly movie mistakes (e.g. Mako walks up to the full-blast helicopter with nary a flutter of her the open umbrella laid casually over her shoulder) suddenly became clear stylistic decisions. I should've had more faith in Guillermo to do it "right" regardless of whether it's what everyone would love. The swelling melodrama, the ragged backstories, the exaggerated characters, the stereotype tropes, the darting plot, all of it suddenly made sense.

Once I realized that and relaxed, I enjoyed the second viewing far, far more than the first.
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Re: Pacific Rim

Post by The Cid » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:40 pm

Saw it last night. A few thoughts:

-I'd like every director to do a film like this. I don't mean "robots vs monsters" when I say "like this." I mean a film that is absolutely nothing like any of the other films that filmmaker has produced to this point. Guillermo Del Toro is, of course, known for creepy and dark movies like Pan's Labyrinth and Mama. So naturally, he then decides to make a movie about enormous robots fighting gigantic monsters with a hard rock soundtrack. And it's wonderful. Why can't more filmmakers go out of their comfort zone?

-Without spoiling anything, Ellen McLain is in this movie. That would be the voice of Portal's GLaDOS and various other voices she's done for Valve over the years. I instantly liked this movie even more when I heard that voice.

-I love that the monsters are called "kaiju." I realize that's a real word with a real meaning, but in film terminology it's always meant "that thing Godzilla is." It would be like actually having a thriller movie where everybody is chasing after a Maguffin that they actually call "the Maguffin." Which is cool because it speaks to my last point:

-This movie was never unaware of what it was at any point. You know how some action movies try to shoehorn in some kind of a moral? Or too many subplots that distract from the main action? Much worse, you know how some action movies try to take themselves seriously and portray a realistic version of a ridiculous scenario? Pacific Rim doesn't do that. It is blissfully aware of what kind of movie it is and never strays from that. The plot isn't stupid, but it also doesn't waste time on things that don't matter. The plot seems aware that its only job is to justify the robots and monsters, and if people have paid ten bucks to sit down in the theater you probably don't need to justify them all that much. This movie goes through the basic conceit of the plot in less time than your average in-flight safety demonstration, and just like that, robots and monsters are fighting on screen. Time wasted: Zip.

Oh, and want comic relief? Fine, just hire a comedic actor famous for playing a particular role to play a slightly tweaked version of that role. (In this case, Charlie Day from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia plays a scientist researching the remains of dead monsters. He plays this in the hyper and excitable manner that Charlie Kelly of Paddy's Pub displays, meaning that he has to show all of zero effort to show up in the movie and give exactly what he needs to.) We don't need long exposition, we don't need actors trying to expand their careers (there are better kinds of movies for that), and we don't need anyone to re-invent the wheel. It's an action movie. It should be simple. Pacific Rim is. It makes very few promises, and delivers on each of them. It's stupid, but you don't go to the theater to see robots and giant monsters play chess.
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Re: Pacific Rim

Post by BtEO » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:27 pm

I loved it. And it definitely does seem like the more you watch it the more you see very deliberate layers of careful art applied to what might superficially seem to be a standard summer action blockbuster.
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I was picking it apart with my viewing companion after our first viewing and I expressed what I thought at first was a small complaint that there was only three full jaeger/kaiju battles shown. But even as I was saying it I realised that this was careful rationing, that each battle quite deliberately had its own flavour — seasoned in-between by the smaller snippets shown of other battles, and by keeping them different enough the result is they don't become tiring.

The Alaska battle came on the heels of jaegers winning the war, it showed cockiness and complacency and ultimately how much the kaiju threat was being underestimated[1] (it also showed Raleigh fighting solo, but that's a more specific plot point rather than world building.)

Having shown us the basics of kaiju combat the Hong Kong battle proceeded to kill the last hope such techniques could win the day. The best jaeger pilots, all with long lists of successes, get taken out while the first has only barely got started; not for lack of skill but because the latest kaiju are very specifically designed for jaeger tech, they're no longer just toying with us. Striker Eureka only survives through a timely intervention, Gipsy Danger barely survived: I don't know if the intention was that the sword was an addition since the last time Raleigh had piloted it, but that was how I read it.

Where the first two battles were defensive the third flipped the roles. You had two kaiju guarding the breech and the resistance making a final all-in offensive. The kaiju are no longer concerned with just causing damage, they stalk the jaegers before making their move, separating them. Hong Kong established that unconventional methods were needed and so the nuke was inevitable (but still spectacular) and so was sacrifice — leading to genuine surprise when the lead actually successfully ejects, makes it back through the breech, and does so still alive.
[1] The same thing is seen too often these days with vaccines.
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Don't neglect Burn Gorman's role as the straight man here too, sure it seems like they should be cooperating more when it's the (not-yet-cancelled) apocalypse but it's because they both know they're right — and of course they are.
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