Greg Dean wrote:But the way it's been stated, if I happened to meet the guy, and he was a functioning member of society that seemed like a decent fellow, and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and looked past what he may have done in the past, that would make me a terrorist? Or at the very least, a terrorist sympathizer? I think that's a little far to be stretching, if you ask me.
The problem with that, Greg, is that he's said he does not in any way regret what he's done and only wishes he'd managed to pull off more
attacks. He was and remains a radical. And despite what the Obama campaign would have you believe, it's not just some dude he'd shaken hands with a couple of times at a charity meeting. Whether or not you believe Obama is a terrorist sympathizer (which I don't), it speaks to his influences and those with whom he chooses to associate and surround himself. The terrorist sympathizer thing is, IMHO, a straw man. It does, though, frustrate the hell outta me that he's spreading his diseased views to malleable college students and getting paid for it--and that it's being used to increase his credibility.
Lizzegirle wrote:I'm baffled by the fact that no one can seem to look past Bill Ayers. The guy was a young adult who got caught up in a HUGE anti-war movement. It's not like ANYONE got caught up in that crap - ESPECIALLY if they were in their twenties during that time. Ask your parents, they probably made stupid decisions and might have done some shit that they shouldn't have. This guy was worse, yes, but it doesn't mean he's a horrible person. He just got waaaay too caught up (as young adults often do) and went waaaaay too far overboard.
Honestly, IMHO there's got to a point where lines are crossed, and I think bombing public buildings counts as crossing that line. What you're saying, the way you're downplaying and trivializing it, would never be accepted for any other terrorist bombing, would it?
However, I also work for a criminal defense law firm that believes people are inherently good, they just made bad judgments which lead them to crime. So I suppose I'm more willing to look past certain things.
Doesn't that law firm try to prevent them from facing the consequences of those crimes? Either way, that's a world view with which I cannot agree. People are not inherently good.
Hirschof wrote:Yes, I'm sure he is here to destroy America. I'm sure he was involved in 9/11. I'm sure he is an operative for Osama. Shit, I'm sure he is best friends with Osama.
Wait, when did we switch to talking about accusations leveled at Bush?