Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

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Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

Post by Seannery » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:45 pm

Lately, my hobby watching Serial Experiments Lain is returning (nice to see this forum interested, though a decade hence) From the start, it was very me. Those few seconds the door closing---jump---may be the most concise description of me then. But the interpretations I read baffled. Lain a god? Preposterous! My motive redoubled. But too immersive: start watching, watching details, details---

So, a more tempered approach. Maybe sharing drafts would keep me forward, astute to dissent. One serie per time. Keeping realism prime. Some thoughts:
  • Vivid imagination? Hallucinations? Artists' stylization?
  • A network connection service from her garage bedroom (iSDN)
In progress.
9:13. Personal note. I rewatched Darren Aronofsky's π. It shares more than the year of first edition with Serial Experiments Lain.
An intellectual loner, with a mental health disorder the intensity of which crescends with the story's progress, climaxing with intense recollections and a (figurative?) suicide (and professional mental health treatment shown only abstrusely), ostensibly becoming a religious figure of legendary status, integrating themself with an ostensibly sapiescent (with a rumored couple centimeters' cuboid component simply plugged in, given to them without direct contact) bedroom-supercomputer they built and would later destroy, is wanted by two organizations---one for profit, one for prophet. Just how much do those organizations exist? It seems a plausible interpretation that the one for profit exists only tangentially or in the main character's imagination. And for prophet? seem real enough but hyperbolic.


---too perfect. I find myself no further than before. O, resisting purer aesthesis?
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Re: Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

Post by Rorschach » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:16 am

I love your posts. They read like Barbelith from The Invisibles.
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Post by Seannery » Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:53 pm

How much of the blacksuits (Karl & friend) did Lain imagine? She saw a stranger---fairly tall, sharp facial features, limpid blue eyes, dirty-blond hair (with that physique, likely a foreigner to Japan) wearing a business suit---standing on the street, facing a lamppost, leering at Lain as she passed by. Later she saw a black sedan, with an endogenous red dot moving in the same direction as Lain, staying approximately near her.
Her older sister said she saw two strangers (who `never were there') in business suits, admonished her mother to call the police in such cases. (Did Lain overhear this, presume the strange stranger, sedan she saw, and the strangers her sisters' described were one?)
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Re: Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

Post by FirebirdNC » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:41 pm

I think I may have had an aneurysm trying to read that.
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Post by Seannery » Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:43 am

Lain returning to empty house, parents' bedroom: on a date---Lain not recognizes. Emptier house, Lain retires. NAVI's (knowledge navigator i.e. computer) glow inviting, Lain falls asleep at the mouse. (Tyler Durden? first impression. It seems a valid interpretation that WIRED(internet)のLAIN is an alternate (split) personality of Lain)
Awakes still mid-night, rechecks house, parents' room, is relieved (they have returned) Checks MESSEZI (failing to depress the grayed keys). No messages aimed at her, she tells her NAVI 「お休みな」(good night) to which her NAVI responds「お休みなさい、LAIN」---a fairly stiff response, but Lain seems to react to it: attributes animism to her NAVI thereby?
Oversleeping benefits by radiance not only from more sun through the window, but that half-groggy self-leisure. Her mother's monotonous admonition and neat breakfast preserved, Lain only starts to speak about last night (their transient disappearance?) but changes her mind. Going to school:
Are they her thoughts? in motion by her
Shady splots, or kept a-wall
In train of thought, a voiced desire
Fear enhancing cortisol

The girls giggling about last night (cyberia), whether he was cute. Lain bored in class; mind wanders about ΨΥΧΉ (last night on the WIRED?), distressed recalling that noisy ghost her nosey guest (you get the gist---I suspect Lain read more about Tisa etc, too, last night) and a question of identity---I recently read an idea that WIREDのLAIN is an idolatrous instance of identity theft (by Knights? Tatibana?) allowed by Lain's not protecting her data---publishing too much about herself. She did jump fast into computers, from not using her old computer for much more than hanging a hat, to using much and often her new top-of-the-line machine.
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Re: Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

Post by Martin Blank » Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:03 am

Rorschach wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:16 am
I love your posts. They read like Barbelith from The Invisibles.
Their posts took me longer to approve than any since the goddamned beginning of the forum. Seriously. Longer than any in SEVENTEEN YEARS.

Still not sure.

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Re: Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

Post by raptor9k » Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:33 pm

I've never seen something seem to be, simultaneously, a human being and a machine learning algorithm?

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Re: Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

Post by Seannery » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:49 am

raptor9k wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:33 pm
I've never seen something seem to be, simultaneously, a human being and a machine learning algorithm?
Well, I do want to be a cyborg. I wasn't aware of it affecting my literary style.
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Re: Serial Experiments Lain (withstood the test of time)

Post by FirebirdNC » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:52 pm

I asked Seannery to please dial it back a bit, so we can hopefully get a better understanding without a headache lol.
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Post by Seannery » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:56 am

At the very end of the series, when Lain and her father are sitting at the table in the orange sky, my impression was visiting hours at a psychiatric hospital.
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