Should Bill Cosby have his Medal of Freedom revoked?

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Should Bill Cosby have his Medal of Freedom revoked?

Post by Arres » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:57 pm

By an reasonable standard it has become fairly clear that Bill Cosby did "some shit". I'm not going to attempt to clarify that. However, in light of his being decalared "Guilty" in the court of Public Opinion it has been suggested that he lose his Presidential Medal of Freedom.
The fact that he testified to acquiring quaaludes to give to women he wanted to have sex with seems to have put the final nail in the coffin. I haven't read the testimony that was unsealed, so I'm not clear if he actually said that he "slipped" them to women or not. If he did, rape. Pretty simple. If he was sharing them with consenting adults, not rape. However, if he slipped one even once, he's a rapist.
If we assume that he IS indeed a rapist, SHOULD he have his Medal of Freedom revoked? I know that the President has stated that there is no mechanism for that, but processes can be invented. Whatever. His behavior has clearly ruined his career, destroyed his moral authority, and tainted his work. However, does it mean that he did NOT create "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors?" Or however you might like to bold that?

tl;dr: Does his bad behavior invalidate his cultural contribution sufficiently that we strip him of his Medal?
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Re: Should Bill Cosby have his Medal of Freedom revoked?

Post by Deacon » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:15 am

I don't think so. I mean, whatever else he did, he was certainly an accomplished comedian and entertainer, and The Cosby Show was a phenomenon, massively culturally influential in many ways--including introducing many white Americans to the idea of a "normal" family that happened to be black.
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Re: Should Bill Cosby have his Medal of Freedom revoked?

Post by BtEO » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:30 pm

The alternative argument to make would be that this kind of behaviour has been surprisingly well tolerated until very recently (see also: Jimmy Saville & Rolf Harris) and work still needs to be done to make clear this is NOT OKAY.

Grand gestures like this could well help that goal. And while I'm wary of some crimes having zero room for forgiveness after time has been served this is not some future career toppled because of a terrible choice dug up and brought to light but rather series of crimes punctuating his entire time as an "accomplished comedian and entertainer".

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Re: Should Bill Cosby have his Medal of Freedom revoked?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:37 pm

I don't think any work needs done to show these kinds of things are not okay. Anyone capable of understanding knows that already.

I'd rather more light was shone on the networks that allow this behaviour.
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Re: Should Bill Cosby have his Medal of Freedom revoked?

Post by Deacon » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:08 pm

The follies which a man regrets the most in his life are those which he didn't commit when he had the opportunity. - Helen Rowland, A Guide to Men, 1922

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