Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

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Re: Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

Post by collegestudent22 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:53 am

Actually, the extremist is a bad person because he actively does something to bring his "vision" about that is illegal, namely murder/suicide. The president and his administration cannot be bad people because they do something to bring about their vision of this country (regardless of whether you agree with it).
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Re: Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

Post by ILurker » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:20 pm

What... the fuck.
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Re: Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

Post by Bigity » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:22 pm

That's helpful?
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Re: Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

Post by ILurker » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:41 pm

The equation of legality with morality is rather confounding.
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Re: Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

Post by Bigity » Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:15 pm

Ok now that I can understand :)
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Re: Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

Post by collegestudent22 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:31 pm

It wasn't an equation of legality with morality. The vision that either person has in this instance can be, by itself, perfectly moral. The problem comes about when one does something immoral (also illegal) to bring it about. Bush has done nothing immoral to bring about his vision for the US. However, the extremists have threatened and taken people's lives. Bush has therefore done what he feels is necessary to stop them from taking more lives. It may be the wrong way to achieve this end, but since when do "bad people" try to HELP others....

What is immoral is not necessarily illegal, but what is illegal is almost always immoral. The only exception to that would be anything that was obviously discrimination or oppression....
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Re: Constitution Discussion, Part 37: Amendment XXVI

Post by StruckingFuggle » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:00 pm

That's an ... interesting ... way to look at things, certainly...
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